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What Uncle Sam Has to Tell His Creditors - The Myth of Americans as an "Indispensable People"

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The out-of-pocket costs of Bush's Iraq war are about $600 billion at the present moment, a figure that increases by millions of dollars every hour.

In addition, there are the much larger future costs that have already been incurred, such as long-term care for the wounded and disabled US soldiers, the replacement costs of the used up equipment, interest payments on the war debt, and the lost economic use of the resources and manpower squandered in war. Experts estimate that the already incurred out-of-pocket and future costs of Bush's Iraq war to be $3 trillion and rising.

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{"commentId":4151485,"authorDomain":"hamid"}

A country that must go hat in hand to its creditors must first look to where costs can be cut. Annual military spending of $700 billion is certainly a good place to start.

But the US government has far more hubris than intelligence and is on its way to being a failed state that has to print money to pay its bills.

It is not too late for the US to save itself and the dollar standard, but it would require a rapid transition from arrogance to humility. The rest of the world can bring America down by not lending to us, in which case neither the trade nor budget deficits could be financed.

Well put!

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Reply#1 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:26 AM EST
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U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP) Frequently Asked Questions - Iraqi Processing
Who is eligible for USRAP consideration?
The U.S. Refugee Admissions Program is currently expanding its capacity to consider Iraqi refugees for resettlement in the United States . In general, a refugee is a person who has crossed an international border and is unwilling or unable to return home because of past persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.
What if I am an Iraqi Citizen currently in the United States and am unable to return home?
Iraqis currently in the United States who are not able to return to Iraq because they have been persecuted or fear they will be persecuted on account of their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion may apply for asylum with the Department of Homeland Security's Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) through one of their offices in the United States. Information on the process of applying for asylum in the U.S. can be found at the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services' website: www.USCIS.gov . To view the asylum information, click on the Services and Benefits link, then Humanitarian Benefits and then Asylum
What if I am an Iraqi who has sought refuge outside of Iraq ?
Refugees and asylum seekers should seek to comply with all legal requirements of the country in which they are located, including registration with host governments if required. In addition, all Iraqi asylum seekers located in third countries should register with the nearest United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) office. UNHCR has the international mandate to provide protection and assistance to refugees and can provide a protection document and possibly other assistance if needed. For a small number of extremely vulnerable individuals, this could include referral to the USRAP or another country's resettlement program. UNHCR will identify individuals for resettlement referral based on an assessment of their vulnerability at the time of registration.
What is the significance of the number 7,000?
UNHCR has made the commitment to the U.S. to refer 7,000 Iraqis in Jordan , Syria , Egypt , Turkey and Lebanon to the U.S. Refugee Admission Program for consideration for resettlement by September, 2007. This is the number that is expected to be received in the first tranche of referrals. However, the U.S. expects to receive additional referrals after the first 7,000 have been submitted, and 7,000 is not a limit on the number of Iraqis the U.S. will consider for the USRAP. We are also exploring other avenues of access to the USRAP in addition to UNHCR referrals.
Do I need a G series passport to be processed for admission to the U.S. as a refugee?
Individuals who are approved by the U.S. as refugees do not need a passport to enter the United States . Travel documents which are accepted for entry in the United States are prepared for the refugee and provided at the time of travel. However, some countries of first asylum in the region do require G series passports for entry.

From the State Department Website, Interesting!

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Reply#2 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:48 AM EST
{"commentId":4152412,"authorDomain":"phillips-brian"}

All for a lie and a failed attempt to commandeer the spigots at Iraqi oil fields.

I'm not a religious man but George W. Bush almost makes me believe in the Anti-Christ.

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Reply#3 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:51 AM EST
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First, Iraq doesn't have that much oil and secondly, I saw the tons of yellow cake Uranium there.  I get tired of the "it was all a lie" line about the WMD in Iraq!

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    #3.1 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:12 AM EST
    {"commentId":4152889,"authorDomain":"phillips-brian"}

    BeMyJellyfish:

    I hope that is sarcasm.

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    #3.2 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:20 AM EST
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    {"commentId":4152695,"authorDomain":"lpwillham"}

    What many people dont realize is that a big chuck of  that 600 billion, went right back into the US economy , it kept companies here in the in business making vehicles, airplane parts,and  Military equipment. The monies used to pay independent contractors resulted in many American having good paying jobs abroad and sending that money back home to their families who spent those dollars here.

    The fact of the matter is, though few would admit it. our wartime economy kept businesses in business, created jobs here and were it not for that wartime economy we might have seen this stock market at 7000 in 2003 or 2004.

    While I deplore the war and thought it should never have been fought, I am not so naive to believe that the money simply disappeared and was wasted, The large blocks of it went directly back into our own econoimy through military spending and contracted services from companies here in the United States.

    And I would not be surprised AT ALL to see the Obama adminsitration 'ramp up" Afghanistan and Pakistan after taking office to keep those sections of the US economy in business, much to the chagrin of the anti war people who elected him. I would also ecpect a "ramp up' of activities off the african continental cost to "protect' shipping interest (oil) getting to our country.

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      Reply#4 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:10 AM EST
      {"commentId":4153077,"authorDomain":"phillips-brian"}

      Hey No McGovern, guess what? WE BORROWED THAT MONEY!

      We didn't generate that cash from within, spend it in Iraq, and then enjoy the payoff back home.

      We borrowed - most likely from China, spent it in Iraq, and passed that MASSIVE debt on to future generations.

      Nice try, pal.

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      • 3 votes
      #4.1 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:32 AM EST
      {"commentId":4159412,"authorDomain":"eric-albert"}

      noMcGovern repeat:

      What a pathetic and criminal argument.  So does the fact that criminal invasions and Empire create Jobs, mean Hitler and his corporate fascist state could claim "socialism", as they did falsely, corporate socialism equals corporate fascism, and therefore we should ramp up war, as did the Rand corporation, foundation, to get us out of Capitalism in crisis, as it did for both Hitler and FDR???

      People who make these kind of immoral arguments, as the military think tank did recently, like your argument, should be tried like the NAZIS by Nuremberg principles and by international courts.    It is completely fascist, criminal to carry out illegal policies, militarism to benefit the corporate thugs who make billions while a million IRAQIS have died and thousands of Americans.

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      • 2 votes
      #4.2 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:00 PM EST
      {"commentId":4161845,"authorDomain":"hamid"}

      Eric,

      Criminal is certainly the best descriptor for the leadership over the past 8 years...

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      #4.3 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:39 PM EST
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      {"commentId":4152831,"authorDomain":"BeMyJellyfish"}

      The biggest problem with government spending is that the federal government has FAR exceeded its authority and responsibilities over the years.  What was the mandate of the federal government in the Constitution?  Establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and insure the blessings of liberty for posterity.

      The rest of the nuts and bolts were to be left to state and local governments.  However, these days, everyone gets all worked up over the Presidential election and barely anyone turns out for local or state elections.  If you want to find the politicians and policies that affect your daily life the most, they are literally in your backyard. Everyone has seemed to give in to the idea of running to the federal government everytime they need something.

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      • 1 vote
      Reply#5 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:17 AM EST
      {"commentId":4154358,"authorDomain":"hamid"}

      BeMyJellyfish,

      Good point, I'm always telling folks about how important it is to monitor their congressman and senators between the presidential elections. That's when all the foolish legislation gets passed...

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      #5.1 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:53 AM EST
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